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     RUDY GIULIANI COMMENTS REGARDING THE IRANIAN REGIME OF TERROR

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                           HON. PAUL A. GOSAR

                               of arizona

                    in the house of representatives

                        Wednesday, July 24, 2019

  Mr. GOSAR. Madam Speaker, I rise today to include in the Record 
comments about the situation in Iran that I believe are relevant and 
should be widely shared. The comments, from former New York City Mayor 
and attorney to the U.S. President Rudy Giuliani, address peaceful 
regime change in Iran and the work of the Iranian Resistance. Giuliani 
delivered this speech at the International Gathering at Ashraf-3, 
Tirana, Albania, which is home to members of the Iranian opposition, 
the Mujahedin-e Khalq (PMOI/MEK). More than 350 bipartisan dignitaries 
and parliamentarians from 47 countries attended the conference. I offer 
these comments for thoughtful discussion as follows:
  Giuliani: ``Thanks to you and particularly to the people who live 
here in Ashraf 3. You'll be the ones who lead your people to freedom 
and you'll be honored forever in Iranian history and in the history of 
those who love and are willing to die for freedom. God bless you.
  This organization has grown and grown and grown and I feel in this 
room today a kind of optimism that I don't remember feeling before when 
we were in Paris. I feel an optimism maybe because you've done a 
miracle here in Ashraf. If we were to build this in New York City, it 
would take 15 years and 14 corruption investigations. I was here a year 
and a half ago, this wasn't here.
  And of course, all of this is possible because of the leadership of 
Madame Maryam Rajavi, a truly exceptional leader. Just like her husband 
Massoud Rajavi, who began this movement in one very brave act. He 
refused to swear allegiance to the Supreme Leader Khomeini to his face. 
He said, ``No, I will not swear allegiance to you. I will not deliver 
my nation to a tyrant.''
  I'm here to say three things. First, I accuse the Ayatollah and 
Rouhani and all of their sycophants and followers of mass murder, 
crimes against humanity. We should be embarrassed for our countries if 
they haven't stood up against this. There's no middle ground here. 
These people have killed at least 120,000 members and associates of 
this great organization. You see the book. You go through the sad, 
tragic, but heroic exhibit they have of the martyrs to freedom. Look at 
the photograph of the people in the infirmary being treated for 
illness, slaughtered just a few years ago. Killed 52 of them of the 
last 100 people who stayed at Ashraf, they tried to wipe them all out. 
In 1988, in two months they slaughtered 30,000 people. These are not 
numbers, these are human lives.
  So there are three things that we have to do. Number one, we have to 
get the governments of Europe to stand up, to wake up, to reclaim their 
dignity and their honor. These are the countries that gave us 
democracy. Greece, Rome, Italy, France, United Kingdom, Germany, all 
places in which freedom was born, democracy was born, democracy 
emerged. Democracy for my nation came out of Europe and the experience 
of Europe. So how can the leaders of those countries turn their back on 
mass murder? How can they do it and live with themselves? It's time to 
end that shameful disregard.
  There's no statute of limitations on murder. I prosecuted two Nazis 
40 years after their horrible deeds. One killed 20,000 people, the 
other killed 12,000 people and we found them and it took years and we 
brought them to justice. The people who slaughtered 30,000 people in 
1988 should be identified, they should be prosecuted, and they should 
either be imprisoned for life or executed. They're criminals. They're 
murderers. They're not leaders of countries. They are no better than 
the murderer in the street except they're worse because they're mass 
murderers.
  I am so proud of my government because we have stood up. We looked at 
that agreement that would make Iran a nuclear power and we said tear it 
up. We're not going to put nuclear weapons in the hands of a maniac. 
Well, I say to the leaders of Europe, you can be liberators too. You 
can go down in history as fighters for freedom.
  Isn't that better than just running a government and making money and 
giving blood money to Iran? How can you do commerce with them? We all 
know they're the largest sponsor of terrorism in the world. What does 
that mean? That means they fund and they supply murderers not only in 
their own country but all over the world. And when you give them money, 
when you relieve them of a debt, which my government did in the prior 
administration, and put over a billion dollars back in their hands, you 
are supporting murder. What do they use it for? Their people know, 
their people know that when they get money, when a French company or a 
German company does business with them, that money, that profit is 
going to be used to kill people in Syria or to kill people somewhere 
else or to send people to Albania to kill us or to send people to 
France like they did last year to kill Madame Rajavi and us. That's 
what they're funding, don't you realize it? That makes you complicit in 
murder.
  Number two, let's make it clear, there is an alternative to this 
horrible regime of terror. This isn't one of those situations in which 
we have the choice of deposing a horrible dictator and we don't know if 
a more horrible one will come along. Right? And when we saw that 
happen, we saw it happen in Egypt, in some ways we saw it happen in 
Libya.
  But here we don't have that problem. We've got the worst regime in 
the world by far, the

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biggest sponsor of terrorism in the world. And then we have the 
National Council, the NCRI, led by the president-elect, Madame Rajavi. 
Coalition of resistance organizations respected throughout the world. 
There are representatives of most of the major countries in the world 
here. They've gotten to know her. They've gotten to respect her. In my 
country, she's thoroughly respected.
  We know there's a group of people who have been fighting for freedom 
all their lives, who have lost the closets people to them in the fight 
for freedom, who are dedicated to it.
  People here at Ashraf, let's make it clear. I spent a lot of time 
with them. These are people who are dedicated to freedom. And if you 
think that's a cult, then there's something wrong with you. There's 
something missing in your soul.
  But we know that there is a government in exile, it negotiates with 
the whole world, and it's written down plain as can be what it stands 
for. And it looks just like our Bill of Rights, just like the universal 
declarations of freedom and decency and human rights enshrined in the 
great documents of the world. Free elections within six months is the 
promise, and I believe it will be fulfilled. They're for gender 
equality. They're for human rights. They're for a system of law. 
They're for we don't imprison someone unless they have a fair trial. 
And because of their history, they oppose capital punishment, because 
there's been too much of it. And it isn't just capital punishment, it's 
murder in their country. This is a good organization. And it's an 
organization that is ready, willing and able not to take over Iran but 
to guide Iran to elections as quickly as possible and hopefully they 
will be part of the coalition governing Iran like they're part of the 
coalition that is trying to guide Iran to freedom. This is a group that 
we can support. It's a group that we should stop maligning and it's a 
group that should make us comfortable having regime change in the worst 
regime in the world.
  Here's what you can do. You can be a witness like in the Biblical 
sense of a witness. You know something that a lot of people don't know. 
You know really how bad it is in Iran. And you know about MEK. And you 
know about Madame Rajavi. And you know the truth, not the lies, ``the 
cult, they don't have support in Iran.'' Why has the Ayatollah been 
murdering them for 40 years if they don't have support in Iran? The 
Ayatollah, Rouhani, have said that this organization is the only one 
that's really a danger to them.
  You now have a responsibility because of your knowledge. Don't be 
euphemistic about it. Don't hide your eyes. You've got to get the 
leaders of your country to stand up so you can all be proud of your 
country and its heritage.
  I get attacked and my colleagues who will be here in a moment get 
attacked all the time in America. Why we're doing this? We're doing it 
really very simply because we love freedom and we can't turn our back 
on people who are being treated this way and we can't turn our back on 
a situation that could be catastrophic for them and catastrophic for 
the world. You know what I say to them? Keep doing it. Keep doing it. I 
wear it as a badge of honor. I support freedom, you support oppression. 
I support democracy, you support a dictatorship. I support decent 
people who share the values of decent governments, and you support mass 
murderers. Now who's right and who's wrong?
  But I know and I feel as I've told you, and I know why there's an 
optimism in this room. Because we're going to be in Tehran much sooner 
than all those cynics believe. You know why? [Because we are Hazer, 
Hazer, Hazer. (We're ready).''


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