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                           VETERANS SERVICES

  Mr. BLUMENTHAL. Mr. President, my thanks to Senator Thune for 
yielding and the Presiding Officer for presiding over the balance of 
the day.
  I am here with sadness--not for the first time and, tragically, not 
for the last, I fear--because I am here to speak to the decimation and 
destruction of veterans services ongoing in real time, right before our 
eyes, affecting real people in their daily lives. And it is a tragedy 
and a travesty because the people affected are our Nation's heroes, 
whom we all say we respect, but in practice, right now, Elon Musk and 
Donald Trump have launched an assault to degrade and denigrate.
  Donald Trump has called veterans suckers. Elon Musk shows the same 
kind of disrespect in the cuts, in hiring freezes, and in reductions in 
amounts of research--a panoply, a tsunami, of cuts in both resources 
and workers that are essential to the VA's functions in providing 
healthcare as well as PACT Act benefits that veterans have earned. They 
deserve them without delay. And this assault on veterans is 
unprecedented in our Nation's history.
  We had a hearing this morning in the VA Committee on various pieces 
of legislation, some of them probably positive in the effects that they 
may have if we pass them. I have cosponsored some of them and will 
support others. But their meaning and effect will be absolutely 
eviscerated if these cuts--including 80,000 workers in addition to the 
2,400 already fired--are, in fact, discharged in the future.
  The plan that the Secretary of the VA has stated--it is his word, 
``plan''--is to fire 80,000 workers. It is his goal. He said it in an 
interview, and I ask unanimous consent that that interview be printed 
in the Record.
  There being no objection, the material was ordered to be printed in 
the Record, as follows:

                     [From Fox News, Mar. 11, 2025]

Changes That Actually Help Our Veterans': VA Secretary Defends Proposed 
                        15% Workforce Reduction

                          (By Deirdre Heavey)

       Veterans Affairs Secretary Doug Collins has been steadfast 
     in his commitment to shake up the department. And, despite 
     firing at least 2,400 employees, Collins pledges to maintain 
     the VA's commitment to preserving and improving healthcare 
     benefits for veterans.
       ``VA's biggest problem is that its bureaucracy and 
     inefficiencies are getting in the way of customer convenience 
     and service to veterans. As I have said before, we owe 
     American veterans and hundreds of thousands of amazing 
     employees solutions. And mark my words, that is what we will 
     deliver,'' Collins said in a video posted on X last week.
       Collins said the VA dismissals are part of President Donald 
     Trump's commitment to making government more efficient and 
     effective, in conjunction with Elon Musk's Department of 
     Government Efficiency (DOGE). The VA announced that last 
     month's personnel moves will save more than $83 million 
     annually, and they will ``redirect all of those resources 
     back toward health care, benefits and services for VA 
     beneficiaries.''
       Collins, who has faced criticism for his proposed 15% 
     workforce reduction, confirmed the VA's goal to cut 80,000 
     jobs during a ``Fox & Friends'' interview with Brian Kilmeade 
     on Monday.
       ``Please, before Democrats or anybody else start on this 
     path, this is going to be a deliberative process that's going 
     to take some time that's going to include career VA 
     employees. It's going to include senior executives. It's 
     going to include all across, even bringing in people if need 
     be, to take a look at: are we being efficient?'' Collins told 
     Kilmeade.
       Collins has shut down criticism from the mainstream media 
     and Democrats who have slammed VA cuts, reminding Kilmeade on 
     Monday that operational issues have long plagued the VA.
       ``Let's all agree on something that for the past 10 years, 
     the GAO has reported that the VA healthcare has been at a 
     high-risk. In other words, they're on the high-risk list for 
     not only the possibility of fraud, waste and abuse, but also 
     in patient quality, patient care. This has been going on for 
     10 years. It's interesting to me that they're looking at wait 
     times. These are things that have preceded me coming in. I've 
     been here for weeks, but it's interesting that there's no 
     solutions being proposed,'' Collins said.
       Veterans have reported poor healthcare conditions at the VA 
     for decades, including long wait times, delayed care, slow 
     processing times and corruption. While the Trump 
     administration's VA has only investigated 2% of their 
     contracts so far, Collins said they have already identified 
     600 non-mission-critical or duplicate agreements to save 
     almost $1 billion. Collins said that money can be reinvested 
     into making ``changes that actually help our veterans.''
       ``The money we're saving by eliminating non-mission 
     critical and duplicative contracts is money we're going to 
     redirect to veterans facing healthcare benefits and services, 
     resulting in massive improvements in customer service and 
     convenience. Improving services to the veterans is exactly 
     why the VA exists. That is what everyone--Congress, the media 
     and VA employees--should be focused on,'' Collins said.
       Collins has emphasized there will be no cuts to healthcare 
     or benefits for veterans.
       ``We're going to accomplish this without making cuts to 
     healthcare or benefits to veterans and VA beneficiaries. VA 
     will always fulfill its duty to provide veterans, families, 
     caregivers and survivors the healthcare and benefits they 
     have earned. That's a promise. And while we conduct our 
     review, VA will continue to hire for more than 300,000 
     mission-critical positions to ensure healthcare and benefits 
     for VA beneficiaries are not impacted,'' Collins said.
       Despite Collins' reassurances, Democrats have slammed the 
     Trump administration and DOGE for VA cuts. House Minority 
     Leader Hakeem Jeffries, D-N.Y., led a press conference with 
     fellow Democrats on the issue last week at the U.S. Capitol.
       ``Why lay off veterans? I mean, 30% of the federal 
     workforce is veterans, including a lot of people who've been 
     laid off at the CFPB. Can you at least show some compassion 
     to veterans?'' Sen. Tim Kaine, D-Va., told Fox News Digital 
     following a meeting with Consumer Financial Protection Bureau 
     employees who were impacted by federal workforce reductions.
       ``They're going to gut the Department of Veterans Affairs, 
     jeopardizing the health and well-being of millions of 
     veterans,'' Sen. Bernie Sanders, I-Vt., said at a rally in 
     Wisconsin on Friday.
       ``Cutting the VA and some of the proposals I've seen are 
     going to hurt service to veterans. So let's agree that that's 
     a bad idea. Bipartisan. It's a bad idea to do that,'' Sen. 
     Elissa Slotkin, D-Mich.. told NBC's ``Meet the Press'' on 
     Sunday.
       ``I go to the VA myself, so I see every day the waiting 
     lists, the long lines to get care, how long it takes to get 
     an appointment. All of that is going to get worse,'' Rep. 
     Seth Moulton, D-Mass., told MSNBC on Saturday.
       Veterans have been speaking out against the proposed VA 
     cuts as well. Veterans are organizing a protest against VA 
     cuts and ``Project 2025'' on Friday, March 14, in Washington, 
     D.C., and at state capitals across the country.
       VoteVets, a progressive political action committee, 
     released a memo last week outlining the ``extensive damage in 
     the department's ability to process and pay out benefits.'' 
     However, Collins said firing nonessential employees and 
     reevaluating contracts is how the Trump administration is 
     ``finally going to give the veterans what they want.''
       ``The VA has been a punching bag among veterans, Congress 
     and the media for decades. Things need to change. We owe 
     America's veterans and the hundreds and thousands of 
     excellent VA employees solutions. For many years, veterans 
     have been asking for a more efficient, accountable and 
     transparent VA. This administration is finally going to give 
     the veterans what they want,'' Collins said.

  Mr. BLUMENTHAL. Mr. President, but we did learn in this legislative 
hearing that, in fact, there is no plan. The 80,000-worker target for 
firing is in the absence of any plan. It is the target. It is the goal. 
It is the intention: Fire now, plan later. No plan, no metrics, no 
methodology, no strategy for right-sizing the VA.
  Now, we know a right-sized VA needs every one of those 2,400 workers 
who have been discharged now. It needs every one of the 80,000 that are 
targeted in the next few months to be fired. And we learned this 
morning that there are, in fact, open positions--36,000 of them, 
including more than 3,000 positions for doctors, thousands others for 
nurses, thousands for the custodians who maintain the VA healthcare 
properties.
  We are talking about real people who will be fired who are on the job 
doing essential work right now, and we are talking about discharging 
people when there are open positions, a need for more doctors, nurses, 
and others. How is that going to work for recruiting? Not so well when 
the VA is firing exactly the people whose positions it is trying to 
fill. That is absolutely a disgrace, and it will be seen as a disgrace 
by anybody wanting to serve in the VA.
  We also learned today that the VA is focusing on legislative measures 
that will make it easier to fire people, that will more readily enable 
it to discharge people without stating a reason, without a performance-
related reason for firing them.
  So we are seeing the biggest attack and assault on veterans' access 
to care and benefits at least in a generation and maybe in our history, 
and Trump and Musk have already fired more veterans than any 
administration before now.

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  But the numbers fail to adequately tell the story because it is a 
story of heartbreaking loss as a result of heartless decisions--loss of 
healthcare on a timely basis, loss of benefits, fear from people who 
have earned the right to security when it comes to healthcare or the 
PACT Act.
  Over the weekend, there was an article in the New York Times that 
described some of this real impact going on right now: a VA clinical 
trial for treating advanced cancers of the mouth put on hold; a VA 
supply technician whose role was described as critical, fired; a vet 
center office manager fired, leaving therapists, who should be treating 
patients, using their precious time sitting at the front desk to check 
in the patients.
  Talk about waste. What we are seeing in real time is not just 
heartless, heartbreaking firing and deprivation of care; we are seeing 
waste of talents and time that cry out for action. And in fact, we are 
hearing that cry from thousands of constituents of my colleagues from 
all around the country.
  This chart shows where we have received complaints and stories from 
people. Some of their words are here:

       Please do not let this administration take all of this away 
     from not only me, but thousands of other Veterans in my 
     similar situation.
       I'm a spouse of a 100 percent permanent and total disabled 
     veteran with two young kids. I am scared to fight back and 
     have them target me to eliminate my job entirely, so I just 
     have to take it to protect my family's only income.
       The VA provides the veterans community with excellent 
     healthcare in my area, and anything done to devalue that care 
     or its facilities would be detrimental to the veteran 
     community.

  The blue represents the States that we have heard from--almost every 
State in the country, some with many different complaints but all of 
them expressing fear, apprehension, and anger at what they see as the 
looming additional cuts in care coming to their communities.
  This administration, very simply, is failing to put veterans first.
  Let me tell you about a veteran who knows that it is failing to put 
him first, a veteran on the west coast who shared his story.

       I lost part of my foot serving this country, and now, 
     people with zero military experience are gutting the benefits 
     Veterans have earned.

  And he continued:

       If it were not for the VA, I would not have been able to be 
     in the position I am in now. I own a home and I am able to 
     manage my anxiety with therapy and medication.

  He was homeless in 2012. He would go to the library every day to 
search for--he was not receiving any VA benefits. He didn't know he was 
eligible. Once he knew about it and he signed up and the healthcare and 
disability benefits began, he was ``propelled . . . into success.'' He 
was able to rent an apartment, purchase a car, get a job--``all thanks 
to the VA.'' ``All thanks to the VA.''
  And his final comment was:

       Please do not let this administration take all of that away 
     from not only me, but thousands of other Veterans in my 
     similar situation.

  He knows this administration is not putting veterans first.
  What I was hoping to hear in today's hearing was a call to action. 
Well, we didn't hear a call to action. In fact, we didn't even hear 
from the Secretary of the VA, who has dodged our questions, refused to 
answer them, who has failed to be transparent with our committee and 
with Members of Congress. I was hoping that he would be there or at 
least that he would be invited to a date certain, but none of it 
happened.
  Instead, the agenda included legislation that attempts to make it 
even easier for the VA to fire employees. It ignores what is happening 
on the ground, ignoring the illegal mass terminations of those 2,400 VA 
employees, with tens of thousands of firings now in the works. That is 
no way to put veterans first. It is illegal; it is unlawful; it is 
reckless; and it is morally repugnant because it involves breaking 
promises.
  A great nation keeps its promises, as we promised to veterans that we 
would provide for their healthcare, that we would give them the 
benefits of the PACT Act, that we would care for them after they were 
exposed to toxic chemicals, that we would give them skilled training 
and job assistance--all of it now potentially ended, at least for a lot 
of those veterans, because there is a funny thing about service: It is 
difficult to provide service in an empty office with an empty chair 
behind an empty desk. Service really does consist of people helping 
each other. Veterans know it better than anyone because peer-to-peer 
veterans programs work better than any other kind, and it is one of the 
reasons why it is important that 30 percent of the Veterans' 
Administration workforce are themselves veterans. They help each other.
  It is no accident that many of those provisional employees who were 
fired--they are the ones who were fired first--are veterans as well 
because they are coming out of the service and they are looking for 
meaningful and productive ways to help other veterans.
  I am introducing this week a measure called the Putting Veterans 
First Act. Essentially, it is a comprehensive effort to ``stop the 
bleeding.'' I am quoting the commander-in-chief of the Veterans of 
Foreign Wars--``stop the bleeding.'' Put pressure on and ``stop the 
bleeding'' is what he told us in one of our hearings.
  The best way to stop this administration from actively robbing and 
rolling back our recent bipartisan accomplishments, canceling contracts 
critical to the implementation of the Dole Act or the Deborah Sampson 
Act, firing thousands of workers critical to the basic functioning of 
the PACT Act, from the schedulers who connect veterans to care to the 
claims staff who process those PACT Act claims--the best way to stop 
the bleeding is to put veterans first.
  No. 1, hire back all of the veterans who have been fired. No matter 
what the Agency, hire back those veterans along with all of the 
military spouses, the veteran caregivers, survivors, members of the 
Guard and Reserve. They, too, served. Hire back all the VA employees 
who have been fired, whether or not they are veterans or military 
spouses or veteran caregivers, survivors, members of the Guard and 
Reserve--everyone that has been fired from the VA.
  Then, if the administration wants to eliminate waste and fraud, let's 
have some standards, performance-based standards, not just ``You are 
fired because we don't need you'' when, in fact, they are needed. But 
more to the point, any sort of firing ought to be based on individual 
performance.
  Nobody is arguing here that there is no waste in the VA. Nobody is 
arguing that there is no waste in other Agencies of the Federal 
Government any more than we would argue there is no waste in any 
American corporation. Everybody knows there is waste. The trick is to 
eliminate the waste without throwing the baby out with the bathwater--
or to use a much more direct analogy that came from Al Lipphardt, the 
commander-in-chief of the VFW--when he was wounded in Vietnam, the 
surgeon took shrapnel out of his arm with a scalpel; he didn't amputate 
the arm.
  Exactly the same choice faces us here--performance-based criteria and 
standards and a means of appeal for those employees who may be 
terminated, a means of readily bringing their claim about improper 
firing to some kind of appeal that is based on performance and merit. 
It ought to be a matter of merit, not just money, not just slashing and 
trashing--merit, and then hiring to replace that person. If that person 
has no merit, fill the position so the job can be done because the need 
is there. Of course, notice to Congress, to labor partners, and 
impacted employees before instituting any changes to telework or remote 
work policies, allowing time for employees to submit reasonable 
accommodation requests to their supervisors, which would help a 
veteran, spouse, and caregiver. I have been contacted by those kinds of 
spouses, like the spouse of a 100-percent disabled veteran with two 
kids:

       I have worked for the Feds for 20 years. My spouse was 
     Active Duty. I am also ADA disabled myself, performed full-
     time telework for 5 years successfully, including preCOVID 
     with reasonable accommodation. The Agency is re-adjudicating 
     my lifelong disabilities and telework accommodations, even 
     though the prior one approved had no expiration date.

  When Trump or Musk talk about mandating return to office--I 
personally love being in the office. As a former prosecutor, I think 
being in the office makes managing a workforce

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easier in some institutions but not all and not for all employees and 
certainly not for the disabled veteran who wrote to me. This employee 
has outstanding performance reviews, and her duties haven't changed. 
The only change here is the one prompted by President Trump's draconian 
return-to-office policy.
  The Putting Veterans First Act would take other commonsense veterans-
first action, such as prohibiting--and this one is really important--
prohibiting unauthorized, unlawful access to veterans' data and VA 
systems by unqualified, uninformed tech bros.
  Well, we know what is happening in the VA. Elon Musk's tech bro elves 
are muscling and plundering their way through the VA's database.
  Now, you may say: What is harmful about access to private, 
confidential, sensitive information potentially about healthcare?
  Well, it is an invasion of privacy, but No. 2, it is also illegal. It 
is potentially a monetization of your information, used for Elon Musk's 
corporations to make more money or to be shared with his fellow 
billionaires so they can make more money.
  That invasion of privacy, the monetization and possibly weaponization 
of that information, would be prohibited by the Putting Veterans First 
Act. It is comprehensive, it is specific, and it makes a priority of 
protecting veterans and putting them first.
  Now, I don't want to exaggerate the chances of this measure passing 
in the next month. I am very clear-eyed. I recognize that the 
administration will put a full-court press against us, that Elon Musk 
will perhaps denounce it. But I think we have on our side an 
indomitable, undefeatable, and indefatigable force, and that is 
veterans, because I am listening to the veterans service organizations 
who came before our committee on prior days and this morning, 
representatives from the American Legion, Mr. Coyle from the VFW, and 
Mr. Murray. We have heard from other organizations that have expressed 
their concerns about what is happening at the VA. They can put a face 
and voice to this issue. Their support for putting veterans first can 
make an absolutely critical difference.
  So I want to make a plea to our veterans: You may feel you don't need 
it, but there is no question you deserve it.
  The ones who need it really deserve it as well. They deserve to be 
put first. They deserve to have no fear or uncertainty or insecurity 
about whether they live in a State that will not be receiving the kind 
of benefits and care under the PACT Act or their VA facility won't be 
renovated or their doctor will be gone or nurses will be missing, their 
positions unfilled. They deserve to know with the kind of certainty 
they have earned.
  We all talk about our veterans as heroes, which they are, but let's 
put our money where our mouths are. Let's be measured by what we do, 
not what we say. And I am extending an arm and a hand to my colleagues 
across the aisle to join me in this comprehensive bill that guarantees 
veterans what they have earned and what they deserve against someone 
whom we didn't choose--nobody did except Donald Trump. Elon Musk is 
unelected, unappointed, and unconfirmed, and his DOGE boys are 
depriving our veterans of what they have earned.
  We can't lose hope or energy. We can't abandon our veterans. We can't 
surrender in this battle. Our veterans have served, and they can 
continue to serve by helping their brothers and sisters make sure that 
the Veterans' Administration puts veterans first.
  I yield the floor.

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