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 AUTHORIZING REPRESENTATION BY THE SENATE LEGAL COUNSEL IN THE CASE OF 
             DESMOND BELLARD V. RONALD WYDEN, U.S. SENATOR

  Mr. BUDD. Mr. President, as if in legislative session and 
notwithstanding rule XXII, I ask unanimous consent that the Senate 
proceed to the consideration of S. Res. 170, which is at the desk.
  The PRESIDING OFFICER. The clerk will report the resolution by title.
  The legislative clerk read as follows:

       A resolution (S. Res. 170) to authorize representation by 
     the Senate Legal Counsel in the case of Desmond Bellard v. 
     Ronald Wyden, U.S. Senator.

  There being no objection, the Senate proceeded to consider the 
resolution.
  Mr. THUNE. Mr. President, this resolution concerns a lawsuit filed in 
the Oregon Supreme Court against Senator Wyden. That suit was brought 
by an individual, Desmond Bellard, who is representing himself without 
the assistance of an attorney and is attempting to use a civil action 
known as quo warranto to remove Senator Wyden from office for alleged 
State campaign finance violations in the 2022 election. This suit 
challenges the Senator's right to be seated in the Senate, an issue 
which the U.S. Constitution commits exclusively to the Senate.
  This resolution would authorize the Senate legal counsel to represent 
Senator Wyden named as a respondent in this suit in order to remove the 
case to Federal court and seek its dismissal on the basis of the 
constitutional commitment to the Senate of the power to seat and remove 
its Members, the Speech or Debate Clause, and the lack of jurisdiction 
under Oregon's quo warranto statute.
  Mr. BUDD. I ask unanimous consent that the resolution be agreed to, 
the preamble be agreed to, and that motions to reconsider be made and 
laid upon the table with no intervening action or debate.
  The PRESIDING OFFICER. Without objection, it is so ordered.
  The resolution (S. Res. 170) was agreed to.
  The preamble was agreed to.
  (The resolution, with its preamble, is printed in today's Record 
under ``Submitted Resolutions.'')
  The PRESIDING OFFICER (Mr. Budd). The Senator from New Hampshire.


                                 Sudan

  Mrs. SHAHEEN. Mr. President, it wasn't that long ago that Sudan was 
on a path to recovery after decades of violence and civil war.
  Back in 2018, Sudanese citizens took to the streets to protest the 
conditions in their country. This movement pushed Omar al-Bashir, who 
was indicted by the ICC for a campaign of mass killing and rape, out of 
power, and this set the country on a course for a better future. Sadly, 
that future was disrupted when the military overthrew the civilian-led 
Government of Sudan.
  Then, 2 years ago, the Sudanese Armed Forces, led by General al-
Burhan, and the Rapid Support Forces, led by General Hemedti, plunged 
Sudan into war. In the 2 years since, over 150,000 people have died and 
12 million more have been displaced.
  You can see this poster reflects the results of what is happening in 
Sudan. In just 2 years, 12 million more people have been displaced and 
are in camps. This is actually one of the nicer camps.
  With acute famine levels at historic highs, 30 million people are in 
desperate need of humanitarian aid. You can see some of the Sudanese 
people with their dishes lined up to get some assistance.
  As so often happens during war, the impact has been especially 
devastating to women and girls. During raids by the armed factions, 
women and girls have been abducted and forced into sexual and domestic 
slavery. One U.N. report found that gender-based violence skyrocketed 
by 288 percent last year. Again, you can see the impact. According to 
UNICEF, 221 children have been raped, including a case involving a 1-
year-old baby.
  If this is true, we just can't ignore it as another horrific detail 
of a distant conflict. The world is watching, and we must hold the 
people who are perpetrating these acts accountable for their crimes.
  The U.S. Government has determined that both the Sudanese Armed 
Forces and the Rapid Support Forces have committed war crimes and 
crimes against humanity during fighting in Sudan. And the Rapid Support 
Forces have led a campaign of ethnic cleansing in Darfur.
  In January of 2025, the U.S. Treasury Department took a positive 
step. It sanctioned the leader of the Rapid Support Forces and the 
leader of the Sudanese Armed Forces for their armies' lethal attack on 
civilians in Sudan. But more needs to be done.
  Cease-fire after cease-fire has failed. Peace negotiations have 
stalled, and outside countries--the UAE, Turkey, Iran, as well as 
Russia and China--continue to send weapons to the factions. Why? Well, 
because Russia doesn't want to give up its port access to the Red Sea, 
China doesn't want to abandon the nearly $6 billion of investments it 
has made in Sudan since 2005, and the UAE doesn't want to abandon 
Sudan's wartime gold trade. According to mining industry sources and 
research by Swissaid, nearly all of Sudan's gold trade flows through 
the UAE.
  The United States needs to stand up and say enough is enough.
  For people who say ``Well, what difference does it make? That is 
Africa. That is a long way away from the United States. Why does it 
matter?'' well, because, sadly, what happens in Africa, what happens in 
Sudan doesn't stay in Sudan. If you can't be outraged because of the 
moral horror of what is happening there, you should be outraged because 
the terrorism and the potential disease that can cross the borders of 
Sudan can come to the United States, and we have seen that too often in 
the past.
  As ranking member of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, I am 
committed to working with my colleagues on both sides of the aisle here 
in Congress as well as folks in the Trump administration because we 
must hold these groups accountable for their war crimes. We must 
support them in ending the violence.
  Right now, both sides in the war continue to bomb, to raid, to siege 
schools, markets, and hospitals. The Sudanese Armed Forces are 
intentionally denying humanitarian aid. They are blocking medicine and 
other relief items. The Rapid Support Forces continue to lead an 
ethnically charged campaign of violence in Darfur.
  Sadly, so many of the foreign assistance programs that we had in 
place have been ended or are under review.
  The United States, the Trump administration, and Congress must create 
a clear policy to address this conflict. We must resume foreign 
assistance to the region and Sudan to limit further humanitarian 
suffering. We must set aside our differences, bring an end to the 
violence, and renew our commitment to setting Sudan back on the path to 
a civilian-led democracy.
  I yield the floor.
  The PRESIDING OFFICER (Mr. Moreno). The Senator from Iowa.


                       National Donate Life Month

  Mr. GRASSLEY. Mr. President, this month of April is National Donate 
Life Month. This month is the time to raise awareness about the 
lifesaving importance of organ donation.
  There are over 103,000 Americans on the national organ transplant 
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list. We should have confidence that our organ transplant system is 
efficient and fair. Sadly, my oversight dating way back to 2005 has 
uncovered decades of corruption and mismanagement in this donation 
system. It has left vulnerable patients to die on waiting lists while 
unused organs from generous American donors go to waste.
  Speaking of waiting lists, I have been concerned about the reports of 
those on the waitlist being skipped over. This furthers the distrust in 
the organ donation system.
  Through my bipartisan oversight and also the 2023 U.S. Organ 
Procurement and Transplantation Network law, the Federal Government is 
making long-overdue changes so that we take care and clean this mess 
up. The law improved the management and the oversight of our organ 
transplant system and encouraged participation from competent and 
transparent contractors.
  To build onto those reforms, in March, the President signed a 
continuing resolution that provided authority for the Department of 
Health and Human Services to collect registration fees from organ 
transplant member institutions. This ensures the 2023 law can be 
implemented properly.
  I encourage all Americans to consider being an organ donor and 
understand the impact that it can have on saving lives.
  Of course, in addition to oversight of the new legislation, I am 
keeping my very close eye on how the Federal Government is implementing 
these new laws to give more people the chance of lifesaving 
transplants.
  I yield the floor.
  I suggest the absence of a quorum.
  The PRESIDING OFFICER. The clerk will call the roll.
  The bill clerk proceeded to call the roll.
  Mr. DAINES. Madam President, I ask unanimous consent that the order 
for the quorum call be rescinded.
  The PRESIDING OFFICER (Mrs. Britt). Without objection, it is so 
ordered.
  Mr. DAINES. Madam President, I ask unanimous consent that the 
rollcall vote begin now.
  The PRESIDING OFFICER. Without objection, it is so ordered.


                       Vote on Meador Nomination

  The question is, Will the Senate advise and consent to the Meador 
nomination?
  Mr. DAINES. Madam President, I ask for the yeas and nays.
  The PRESIDING OFFICER. Is there a sufficient second?
  There appears to be a sufficient second.
  The clerk will call the roll.
  The bill clerk called the roll.
  Mr. BARRASSO. The following Senators are necessarily absent: the 
Senator from Arkansas (Mr. Boozman), the Senator from Kansas (Mr. 
Moran), and the Senator from Oklahoma (Mr. Mullin).
  Mr. DURBIN. I announce that the Senator from Vermont (Mr. Sanders) is 
necessarily absent.
  The result was announced--yeas 50, nays 46, as follows:

                      [Rollcall Vote No. 209 Ex.]

                                YEAS--50

     Banks
     Barrasso
     Blackburn
     Britt
     Budd
     Capito
     Cassidy
     Collins
     Cornyn
     Cotton
     Cramer
     Crapo
     Cruz
     Curtis
     Daines
     Ernst
     Fischer
     Graham
     Grassley
     Hagerty
     Hawley
     Hoeven
     Husted
     Hyde-Smith
     Johnson
     Justice
     Kennedy
     Lankford
     Lee
     Lummis
     Marshall
     McConnell
     McCormick
     Moody
     Moreno
     Murkowski
     Paul
     Ricketts
     Risch
     Rounds
     Schmitt
     Scott (FL)
     Scott (SC)
     Sheehy
     Sullivan
     Thune
     Tillis
     Tuberville
     Wicker
     Young

                                NAYS--46

     Alsobrooks
     Baldwin
     Bennet
     Blumenthal
     Blunt Rochester
     Booker
     Cantwell
     Coons
     Cortez Masto
     Duckworth
     Durbin
     Fetterman
     Gallego
     Gillibrand
     Hassan
     Heinrich
     Hickenlooper
     Hirono
     Kaine
     Kelly
     Kim
     King
     Klobuchar
     Lujan
     Markey
     Merkley
     Murphy
     Murray
     Ossoff
     Padilla
     Peters
     Reed
     Rosen
     Schatz
     Schiff
     Schumer
     Shaheen
     Slotkin
     Smith
     Van Hollen
     Warner
     Warnock
     Warren
     Welch
     Whitehouse
     Wyden

                             NOT VOTING--4

     Boozman
     Moran
     Mullin
     Sanders
  The nomination was confirmed.
  The PRESIDING OFFICER (Mr. Moreno). Under the previous order, the 
motion to reconsider is made and laid upon the table, and the President 
will immediately be notified of the Senate's actions.
  The Senator from Mississippi.
  Mr. WICKER. Mr. President, I seek recognition to make a unanimous 
consent request.
  The PRESIDING OFFICER. Without objection, it is so ordered.


             Unanimous Consent Request--Executive Calendar

  Mr. WICKER. Mr. President, actually, I am going to ask unanimous 
consent that we go ahead and confirm General Caine as Chairman of the 
Joint Chiefs of Staff, but I must say that I do so with mixed feelings.
  On the one hand, we need a Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff 
immediately, and there is overwhelming support on the Democratic side 
and Republican side for this nomination.
  On the other hand, passage of this confirmation would pretty much end 
our week, and that would prevent us from getting a lot of work done 
later on this afternoon and into tonight and tomorrow if we have to 
stay until tomorrow to confirm this very important officer as Chairman 
of the Joint Chiefs of Staff.
  So, in a way, we can have it either way, but, frankly, to stay here 
and get some Congressional Review Act resolutions done so that we can 
end a number of the pernicious regulations foisted off on the American 
people and on our economy by the Biden administration--that has a lot 
of appeal also.
  So with that in mind and in an effort to accommodate Members on both 
sides of the aisle who really believe we can finish our business today, 
I ask unanimous consent that the cloture motions filed yesterday on 
Executive Calendar Nos. 75 and 74, making Gen. John Caine Chairman of 
Joint Chiefs of Staff, ripen at 3 p.m. today.
  The PRESIDING OFFICER. Is there objection?
  Mr. SCHUMER. I object.
  The PRESIDING OFFICER. The objection is heard.
  Mr. WICKER. Mr. President, I may have other unanimous consent 
requests, but if I could be heard on this matter for another moment, I 
would seek recognition for that purpose.
  The PRESIDING OFFICER. The Senator is recognized.
  Mr. WICKER. Mr. President, I am happy to yield to my friend from 
Alaska, who has now vacated the floor. I thought we had this more 
synchronized.
  But let me say this: There was a vote earlier this week in the Armed 
Services Committee. It passed the Armed Services Committee with 
overwhelming Democrat and Republican support--23 yeses and only 4 noes. 
So there is really no reason to delay this any longer.
  Frankly, there is so much going on around the world with the four 
powers that constitute an axis of aggression to the United States that 
we really should give the President the choice that has been endorsed 
overwhelmingly by a bipartisan majority of the Armed Services 
Committee.
  With that, having communicated better now with my dear colleague from 
Alaska, I would yield to the junior Senator from the State of Alaska.
  The PRESIDING OFFICER. The Senator from Alaska.
  Mr. SULLIVAN. Mr. President, I certainly hope my Democratic 
colleagues can let us move forward on this, or we are going to stay all 
night until we get the President's Chairman of the Joint Chiefs 
confirmed.
  Now, look, I know there was some concern about removing General 
Brown, CQ Brown. I actually really like General CQ Brown. I thought he 
did a good job. I publicly stated a number of times that he served his 
country very well.
  But here is the deal: The President of the United States is entitled 
to the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs that he wants. You look at history, 
senior military commanders on the Democrat's side, on the Republican's 
side--if the President doesn't feel comfortable with them, he has the 
right to remove them and move on. That is just our history. That has 
happened with Democrats.
  George W. Bush wasn't comfortable with Gen. Peter Pace. He is a 
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I happen to respect him a lot. He said: Hey, I am not comfortable. I am 
moving to another Chairman.
  President Obama fired two very senior, four-star generals inside of 2 
years. One was General McChrystal, one of the most seasoned warriors, 
you know, in a generation of warfighters, and he removed him.
  So President Trump clearly had the authority to remove General Brown. 
He has now put forward General Caine, who, by the way--everybody on the 
Armed Services Committee thought he did a great job. He is going to get 
a really big vote here. So why are we delaying it? I don't know. It 
doesn't make any sense to me.
  The President deserves his senior military adviser. That is what the 
Chairman of the Joint Chiefs is--his senior military adviser. The 
President needs to feel comfortable with that person. That person is 
actually out of the chain of command. We have seen throughout history 
that when the President doesn't feel comfortable, he can remove one 
general and bring in another one. That is what has happened here.
  We should confirm General Caine immediately. I think he is going to 
do a really, really good job. As a matter of fact, I have interviewed, 
sat down with, served under hundreds of flag officers. General Caine is 
one of the most impressive I have ever met. So we need to get on with 
it.
  You know, there are these press stories about why President Trump 
removed General Brown. I think it is just because he wanted to have a 
general whom he trusts and feels comfortable with, and that is exactly 
his right as the Commander in Chief.
  So we should move on. General Caine is going to get a very, I think, 
significant bipartisan vote. He should. And if the minority leader 
wants to object, we will just grind it out all night and get it done.

  Mr. WICKER. Mr. President, I wonder if I could reclaim my time to ask 
my distinguished friend from Alaska a question.
  The PRESIDING OFFICER. The Senator from Alaska has the floor, and he 
can yield for a question.
  Mr. SULLIVAN. Mr. President, I yield to my good friend from 
Mississippi.
  Mr. WICKER. Mr. President, yes, that is correct.
  I would then ask my distinguished friend from Alaska: Isn't it a fact 
that General Caine time and again has demonstrated his aptitude and 
leadership abilities while actually deployed in combat zones, leading 
servicemembers in Iraq and Syria, and while serving in various Special 
Operations forces units and also in the intelligence community and that 
he ran some of our most secretive programs for the security of 
Americans?
  Mr. SULLIVAN. My good friend from Mississippi, the chairman of the 
Armed Services Committee, by the way--a Senator who knows probably more 
about the military than anyone else here--has it exactly right.
  General Caine has this breadth of experience, not just as a fighter 
pilot with thousands of hours, combat hours, in flight but has worked 
very closely with our intel services and has very significant combat 
experience in Iraq and Syria.
  Very interestingly--and the chairman of the Armed Services Committee 
knows this--he has private sector experience. You would say: Why does 
that matter? It actually matters a lot because of our military and the 
need to integrate our very powerful private sector.
  So he brings a wealth of experience that, to be honest--in my 10 
years in this position as a U.S. Senator on the Armed Services 
Committee and my 30 years in the Marine Corps, I have never seen a 
general that brings it all together. So I think he is going to be 
outstanding and exceptional.
  Mr. WICKER. If the gentleman would further yield?
  I just wondered if the gentleman would yield to the distinguished 
minority leader to ascertain how this matter is going to be resolved 
differently if we wait until tomorrow. The gentleman has the floor. 
Perhaps he would do so.
  Mr. SULLIVAN. Mr. President, I would yield to the distinguished 
minority leader. Maybe having him watch this distinguished debate 
between me and the chairman of the Armed Services Committee has 
convinced him to bow to the inevitable, and that is the confirmation of 
the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs.
  The PRESIDING OFFICER. The Senator from Alaska has the floor. The 
Senator from New York has not sought recognition.
  Mr. SULLIVAN. Mr. President, maybe the minority leader will explain 
why he is objecting given that we just laid out very cogent, strong 
reasons that we need to move forward on confirming the Chairman of the 
Joint Chiefs of Staff right now. It is a very dangerous world. Why 
would we wait? I am curious on what the minority leader says.
  I yield the floor if he has an answer.
  Mr. SCHUMER. Does the Senator yield the floor?
  Mr. SULLIVAN. This Senator yields the floor to answer that inquiry 
that I asked about.
  Mr. SCHUMER. Mr. President, I suggest the absence of a quorum.
  The PRESIDING OFFICER. The clerk will call the roll.
  The senior assistant legislative clerk proceeded to call the roll.
  The PRESIDING OFFICER. The Senator from Alaska.
  Mr. SULLIVAN. Mr. President, I ask unanimous consent that the order 
for the quorum call be rescinded.
  The PRESIDING OFFICER. Is there an objection?
  Mr. SCHATZ. Mr. President, I object.
  The PRESIDING OFFICER. There is an objection.
  Mr. SULLIVAN. Mr. President, I ask unanimous consent that the order 
for the quorum call be rescinded.
  The PRESIDING OFFICER (Mr. Budd). Without objection, it is so 
ordered.
  The Senator from Alaska.
  Mr. SULLIVAN. Mr. President, I just want the American people who are 
watching this that care about our national security--the chairman of 
the Armed Services Committee just had a colloquy here on the floor 
talking about why we needed to move the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of 
Staff to get confirmed in the Senate here. And I and the chairman of 
the Armed Services Committee, respectfully, asked the question of the 
minority leader, Democratic minority leader, why are you blocking this? 
And you may have seen he just walked off the floor.
  He didn't answer. I don't know if he has an answer. If he has an 
answer, it sure would be good to hear what the answer is because we 
need President Trump's Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff confirmed. 
And I bet he gets strong bipartisan support, in terms of his 
confirmation, because he is very qualified. And yet, without any 
explanation, the minority leader of the U.S. Senate just said, ``I 
object,'' and he walked off the floor.
  I hope the press reports on that. Holy cow. That is kind of big news. 
And if we have to be here all night, jamming down on them to get the 
Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff confirmed because our country 
needs it during a very dangerous time, a general who is immensely 
qualified, then that is what we are going to do.
  But it sure would be easier to just agree with us, start moving on 
the vote, and get this highly qualified general confirmed as President 
Trump's Chairman of the Joint Chiefs.
  But what you just witnessed, for anyone watching, the American people 
watching, was a nondebate. My good friend from Mississippi and I were 
describing why we need to move this forward. The minority leader of the 
U.S. Senate, who has the power to do it, just said: ``I object.''
  Normally, on the Senate floor when someone objects, they explain why. 
But he didn't want to do it. He just walked off the floor. So that is 
what we just witnessed. It is a little bit unusual, particularly when 
it comes to a confirmation that is so important. There are very few 
confirmations that the U.S. Senate does that are more important than 
confirming the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff. And I guess the 
Democrats are going to block it for now, and we will go all night to 
make sure President Trump has his principal senior military adviser, 
which he needs during these dangerous times.
  I yield the floor.
  Mr. SCHATZ. I suggest the absence of a quorum.
  The PRESIDING OFFICER. The clerk will call the roll.

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  The senior assistant legislative clerk proceeded to call the roll.
  Mr. WICKER. Mr. President, I ask unanimous consent that the order for 
the quorum call be rescinded.
  The PRESIDING OFFICER. Without objection, it is so ordered.
  The Senator from Mississippi.
  Mr. WICKER. Mr. President, just for the information of Senators, as 
the unanimous consent request has been objected to, and we are not 
allowed to vote at this point to give the President of the United 
States a Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, I just wanted to inform 
the Senate, based on conversations with the majority leader and his 
staff, that there are two matters that we can and will proceed to later 
on this afternoon and perhaps into the night.
  The first would be the House version of Senator Scott of South 
Carolina's Congressional Review Act resolution, H.J. Res. 61, providing 
for congressional disapproval under section 8 of title 5, United States 
Code, of the rules submitted by the Environmental Protection Agency 
relating to ``National Emission Standards For Hazardous Air Pollutants: 
Rubber Tire Manufacturing.''
  That is one matter that the objection has given us an opportunity to 
proceed to.
  The other would be Senator Curtis's Congressional Review Act, S.J. 
Res. 31, a joint resolution providing for the Congressional disapproval 
under chapter 8 of title 5, United States Code, of the rule submitted 
by the Environmental Protection Agency relating to ``Review of the 
Final Rule Reclassification of Major Sources As Area Sources Under 
Section 112 of the Clean Air Act.''
  As I said, during my unanimous consent request, proceeding to the 
vote on the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff would give the 
President the advice and counsel that our Commander in Chief needs 
during a very dangerous time.
  That said, I made the unanimous consent request with mixed feelings 
because, frankly, there are two regulations--pernicious, onerous, 
needless regulations--by the Environmental Protection Agency that need 
to be wiped off the books.
  So this will give us an opportunity to do that. It is 10 after 3 at 
this point, and I am not sure when the distinguished majority leader 
will schedule that, but Members should be advised that unless we are 
able to get a unanimous consent request and give the President his 
choice for Chairman of the Joint Chiefs, those are items that can still 
be the order of the day, and perhaps there are other votes tomorrow.
  I yield the floor.
  The PRESIDING OFFICER. The Senator from Oklahoma.
  Mr. LANKFORD. Mr. President, I join my colleague in expressing some 
frustration that we can't vote on the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of 
Staff. It is the kind of stuff that drives people crazy back home for 
an individual that is the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs. Most people 
back in my State of Oklahoma think this has already been done. But to 
not be able to move on this, to literally have my Democratic colleagues 
block it and say we are not going to allow the Chairman of the Joint 
Chiefs of Staff for our military to be able to be there, it is just 
another one of those moments of Washington, DC, gridlock and 
frustration, especially when this person moved out of committee with a 
vote of 24 to 4.
  That is overwhelming bipartisan support. There is just not 
controversy about this nominee. But now suddenly to be able to have a 
game, to be able to say we want to be able to stall this out and maybe 
block this person until after Easter, so we don't have a Chairman of 
the Joint Chiefs of Staff is frustrating for people to say: Come on, 
just have the vote.
  So I join my colleagues on the Republican side to say: What is the 
problem? Everyone knows this person is going to be voted on and is 
going to be approved because there is such wide bipartisan support, but 
for my Democratic colleagues to say: Nope, we want to drag this out for 
weeks, I just don't think it is the right thing to do. Clearly, they 
disagree, but I don't think it is the right thing to do.


               30th Anniversary of Oklahoma City Bombing

  Mr. President, next week, Oklahoma and the Nation will pause for a 
moment, and we will remember, nationally, for a moment, on April 19 at 
9:02 in the morning.
  And some people will look around and go, ``Has it been 30 years?'' 
and other people will say: ``What happened 30 years ago?'' because it 
depends on your generation of when you were born and how old you were 
or if you were even alive in 1995, but if you were alive in 1995, you 
remember where you were when the news came out that there was an 
explosion at a Federal building in Oklahoma City.
  It was the Alfred P. Murrah Federal Building. A man who was mad at 
the government and determined he was going to cause an uprising of 
people to take down the Federal Government pulled a Ryder truck in 
front of a Federal building, loaded it with diesel fuel and with 
ammonia nitrate, lit fuses, walked away, got in his car and drove away.
  As he drove away, behind him, the explosion went off that killed 168 
people, including 19 children who were in the daycare center on the 
ground floor. And our Nation was forever changed.
  We pause every year still in Oklahoma. We have never forgotten. Every 
year, we think about those who were killed and those who survived and 
those who were changed forever. We remember every single year, as we 
will again this year on the 30th anniversary, and we will pause to 
remember.
  The people that are around us in Oklahoma are our neighbors, they are 
our friends, but many of them are also survivors or family members of 
survivors or family members of those who are lost. There are still 
police officers and firefighters that have literally never been back to 
that location because it is too painful to be able to return to a spot 
where they carried out the bodies of their friends and neighbors.
  There are individuals that their family was truly forever changed. 
And now, 30 years later, they still get together and talk and visit, 
catch up with each other. There are survivor networks that still engage 
and still keep in contact with each other, remembering what happens 
when out-of-control anger took the lives of 168 people.
  On that sacred ground, there is still a quiet reflection pool. There 
are 168 chairs there to remind people of the 168 lives. There is a 
phenomenal museum that is next to it that people come to literally from 
all over the world to study terrorism, domestic terrorism in 
particular, and to be able to walk through what happened in the crime 
scene and how it was so quickly resolved. We have law enforcement, 
first responders, families and communities that come from everywhere 
just to be able to learn and to reflect.
  There are children that survived the daycare center that are now 
adults. Let me give you two: Brandon and Rebecca Denny. Brandon was 3 
years old, and he literally barely survived his injuries; in fact, 
doctors gave him a 10 percent chance of survival, but he did. As an 
adult, he works to still help and serve others.
  Rebecca, she was rescued from the rubble at 2 years old. She now has 
a family of her own. She speaks powerfully, still, about forgiveness 
over bitterness.
  They were some of those miracle babies that survived. Many of the 
children around them did not.
  This past week, it was really a remarkable moment that a lot of 
people in this town probably missed, and I understand. There is a lot 
of things going on right now. But on the south side of the Capitol, 
there was a spot of dirt that was dug up there and a group of 
Oklahomans, along with the Architect of the Capitol, buried a seedling 
tree.
  Now, that may not seem like a big deal on the Capitol grounds, but 
there aren't many trees that are planted on the Capitol grounds. Many 
of the trees that are on the grounds are 100 years old or some, 200. 
This is a great historic place and a spot of reflection.
  But in one spot there, we just planted a tree. And you may say: What 
is the big deal about that tree? Well, if you are in Oklahoma, you 
already know the rest of this story, but I would like to be able to 
tell this body the rest of that story.
  On April 19, 1995, when that truck bomb explosion took place, it took 
168 lives. It destroyed the Alfred P. Murrah Federal Building. Across 
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the Journal Record Building; it just demolished a big section of that 
as well, blew out all the windows, destroyed it. In the parking lot 
there in front of that building was an American elm tree. It was a 
scrubby tree growing in a parking lot. If you have seen a tree in the 
parking lot, you know it is not usually the healthiest looking thing, 
but it was just growing there in the middle of the asphalt. But when 
the explosion happened, it literally destroyed all those lives. But for 
that tree, it blew literally every leaf off of that tree. But the force 
of the impact and the heat of the impact was so strong, that it 
literally turned the tree. The bark literally that usually has this 
nice little stripe as it grows literally has a turning point in it and 
around it, and everyone just assumed that tree is dead. No one paid 
attention to it.
  In the year of the cleanup and all of the recovery and what was 
happening during that time period, no one paid attention to it, until 
the next spring, that scrubby little tree in the asphalt started 
sprouting. And people were shocked. It is alive. And suddenly it went 
from being a scrubby tree in the parking lot that was just going to be 
cleared out to being a sign of hope.
  So we cleared the asphalt and everything else away from it. An 
arborist came and began to fertilize it and to take care of it. That 
scrubby little tree is now nicknamed ``The Survivor Tree'' now, and it 
is the picture of Oklahoma after that bombing. We survived.
  That scrubby little American elm tree is now enormous 30 years later. 
Its branches and its leaves spread out over that site. It is the shaded 
spot. And on the morning of April 19, there will be survivors and 
families that will sit under its branches. And as we pause for 168 
seconds and as we read the names of those who we lost, they will be 
underneath that Survivor Tree thinking again of: We survived. We are 
still here.
  The term ``the Oklahoma standard'' was born during that time period 
as neighbor helped neighbor and as we cared for each other and the 
people who came to our home from all over the world, literally.
  If you walk into my office, you will see a picture of the Survivor 
Tree that is there. How does that seedling that we just planted and 
that Survivor Tree connect? Well, that seedling is a daughter of that 
Survivor Tree. A seed was literally picked up off the ground under that 
Survivor Tree, was planted and grown, and now it is about 3 feet tall. 
That seedling, that daughter, we just planted 30 years later at the 
U.S. Capitol so that this Nation will never forget the out-of-control 
anger that turned to violence and hatred.
  It is our prayer from Oklahoma that, as people walk down the path 
outside, that they would stop and read the plaque beside that little 
seedling tree. That in the decades ahead, it will grow to be a giant 
American elm, just like its parent, the Survivor Tree, and that people 
would remember the lives that were lost, those who survived, and those 
who were changed forever.

  That is our hope. That is why that tree was planted on the Capitol 
lawn this week.
  My simple request for my colleagues: April 19, it is a Saturday--when 
it comes, at 9:02 central time, would you just pause with us for just a 
moment and remember? Join us because we will absolutely never forget.
  I yield the floor.
  The PRESIDING OFFICER. The Senator from Alaska.


                         Tribute to Jay Ramras

  Mr. SULLIVAN. Mr. President, it is Thursday here in the U.S. Senate, 
and it is time for a great tradition--I think one of the greatest 
traditions in the history of the U.S. Senate. It is called ``The 
Alaskan of the Week'' speech, which I try to give most Thursdays. It 
has been a while. For the pages, this is the highlight of the week. 
Even our friends in the media like this speech because it usually 
signals the end of the work week, but not right now. You saw the 
minority leader's objection without any explanation on why on 
confirming the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs, so we might be here for a 
lot longer.
  So I wanted to highlight what is going on in Alaska, as I usually do 
during my ``Alaskan of the Week'' speech and just give a snapshot of 
what is happening back home.
  It is still pretty cold, still have a fair amount of snow. Anchorage 
just got a bunch of snow that lasted a couple of days. The 53rd 
Iditarod just concluded in Nome with a stunning first-time win by 
Alaskan Jessie Holmes and his 10-dog sled team.
  The Iron Dog Race, that is a snow machine race, longest, toughest 
snow machine race in the world, was won by--that is done in kind of 
tandem--Robby Schachle and Bradley George, their second victory of the 
Iron Dog snow machine race.
  Things are starting to thaw, as I mentioned. It is beginning of the 
summer tourism season, right around the corner. The first cruise ship 
will dock in Southeast Alaska in less than 2 weeks, and thousands of 
tourists from all over the world will come to our great State.
  Anyone watching in the Gallery, we would love to have you. Come to 
Alaska.
  For many of these tourists, this is going to be the trip of a 
lifetime. For Alaskans, this is where we live every day. And our 
Alaskan of the Week does something that is very unusual: He is beloved 
by Alaskans and tourists--not an easy task--and this person is my 
friend Jay Ramras.
  Like many Alaskans, Jay is a jack-of-all-trades. He owns restaurants 
and beautiful hotels. He has had a successful political career. He is a 
prolific philanthropist. He loves history. And more importantly, he 
loves Alaska and especially his great hometown of Fairbanks--by the 
way, my wife's hometown.
  Now, I love to talk about our Alaskan of the Week. There are so many. 
We have talked about hundreds over the course of many years here on the 
Senate floor.
  Jay was born in Fairbanks in 1964. His father Dan moved to Fairbanks 
from Brooklyn, NY, in 1948. And as Jay says: There has been a Ramras in 
Interior Alaska going on 80 years.
  And Jay's entrepreneurial resume, which is legendary in Alaska, began 
in 1986 at the tender age of 22 years old when he started a chicken 
wing restaurant, expanding his business footprint to other eateries 
across Fairbanks and, eventually, purchasing the iconic Fairbanks 
landmark called Pike's Landing.
  For anyone going to Fairbanks, you have got to stay at Pike's 
Landing.
  It was this purchase that led Jay to uncovering some really 
incredible chapters of Alaskan history--as I said, Jay is a real 
history buff--and he credits this to his bachelor of arts degree in 
American history, but it all started with Pike's.
  So let's talk about Pike's. Pike's Landing was established after 
World War II when Lloyd Pike claimed land along the Chena River--the 
Chena River runs right through Fairbanks--under the Homestead Act.
  In 1959--by the way, the same year Alaska became the 49th State--Pike 
opened the original Pike's Landing. Throughout the years, Pike's 
Landing cemented itself as a landmark in the Fairbanks community.
  When Jay purchased Pike's Landing in 2000, he found himself wondering 
about the history of the property and the man who established the 
landmark location of Pike's. The original owner had sort of disappeared 
from history. So Jay asked around, collecting oral histories from 
Fairbanks old-timers who had seen the growth of Pike's Landing over the 
decades.

  Jay found that Pike's Landing had long faced congestion at the boat 
launch due to its prime location right there, as I said, on the Chena 
River. That was a problem Lloyd Pike solved by building a public launch 
to clear up some of the demand in terms of getting boats on the river.
  The original boat launch was washed away when the Chena River 
flooded--huge flood by the way--in 1968. But decades later, Jay found 
himself building another boat launch, unknowingly, right at the same 
spot. As he said: If I hadn't already been born, I would have believed 
in reincarnation. I would have thought I had been reincarnated as Lloyd 
Pike because he put his boat launch right where Lloyd Pike lived. Since 
then, Jay has been working with Fairbanks North Star Borough Historic 
Preservation Commission to put Pike's Landing on the National Register 
of Historic Places. I have no doubt that is going to happen. ``It was 
so important to me that we rescue Lloyd Pike from obscurity,'' Jay 
said.
  But this wasn't the only historical figure that Jay has connected 
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and the community of Fairbanks to. As Jay was in the process of 
building an aviation-themed extension of his hotel, he felt it needed a 
real airplane mounted in front to honor the lodge's proximity to the 
Fairbanks International Airport. While searching, he stumbled on a 
refurbished Cessna 140 on Craigslist. After purchasing this plane, Jay 
discovered it had been owned by none other than Noel Wien.
  The Presiding Officer is a pilot. Maybe he knows who Noel Wien is. 
For those who don't, Noel Wien is considered the father of Alaska 
aviation--the first pilot to successfully fly from Anchorage to 
Fairbanks in 1924. Wien went on to found Wien Airlines, a commercial 
airline that operated in Alaska for nearly 60 years.
  As the Presiding Officer knows, these were some intrepid pilots. That 
was 100 years ago he did that first flight--open-air cockpit, really 
cold.
  Jay's interest in history, once again, piqued, and he dug into that 
period and discovered some great photographs of Noel Wien, Wien 
Airlines, and had a great celebration last year in July of 2024, 
celebrating the 100th anniversary of that historic flight in Alaska. 
Really, that was a historic flight for America. My wife Julie and I 
were there. Senator Murkowski was there. Our Governor was there. By the 
way, the Wien family was there, including Leslie Wien Hajdukovich, my 
former regional director. It was a great classic Jay Ramras event. 
Hundreds of people came out to celebrate a huge moment in Alaska 
history, Alaska aviation history--I would say, American aviation 
history.
  In addition to preserving this incredible chapter in Fairbanks' 
history, Jay has invested in Fairbanks' future. Let me tell you about a 
few of his other endeavors. Each summer, Jay hosts the Yukon 800 boat 
race, the longest, toughest, roughest speedboat race in the world. It 
starts at Pike's, up to the Chena, gets out on the mighty Yukon--huge 
race.
  Just as I mentioned, he just recently hosted the fourth Iditarod 
start at Pike's. Normally, the Iditarod starts down in Anchorage. That 
is the toughest, longest, greatest race in the world, the Iditarod. It 
occasionally starts in Fairbanks, but it did this year at Pike's. And 
as I mentioned, he regularly sponsors the Iron Dog snow machine race 
that, yes, is the toughest, longest, roughest snow machine race in the 
world.
  Jay also had a successful political career, serving three terms in 
the Alaska House of Representatives. And he is a great philanthropist 
in Fairbanks--a key player in Fairbanks Food Bank and doing so many 
other things in terms of philanthropy.
  On top of all this, Jay says his greatest legacy, he believes, will 
be something he recently did--which I think is just fantastic--the 
creation of a new synagogue in Fairbanks, the northernmost Chabad in 
the United States.
  It began with a call from Rabbi Greenberg in Anchorage. He is a great 
friend of mine, one of the leaders of our Jewish community throughout 
the State. He asked Jay if he could host a young orthodox rabbi and his 
wife for a short visit. Of course, Jay, a very generous man, agreed. 
``I think it would be around a two-week summer stay.'' Then they came 
again for a second visit, this time in January when it is 45 below zero 
in Fairbanks. It gets really cold in Fairbanks. And they still 
returned.
  The young couple, Rabbi Heshy Wolf and his wife Chani have now chosen 
to make Fairbanks their permanent home.
  Jay, generous as ever, purchased a small church with his own money. 
The previous congregation at the church had outgrown the place. They 
refurbished it, transforming it into the Fairbanks Jewish Center. The 
original congregation stayed on rent-free until they found a new home, 
a new church. Just a few weeks ago, five rabbis gathered in Fairbanks 
for the first time in over 120 years and hosted this new synagogue, the 
northernmost synagogue, I believe, in America, in Fairbanks.

  Jay, thank you. What a life of accomplishment. What a legacy, not 
just for Fairbanks, but for all of Alaska. For every different 
community--sports community, Jewish community, historical community--
you have done it all. And now, Jay, you have been awarded one of the 
most prestigious awards anyone can achieve in their life, Alaskan of 
the Week.


                                 China

  Mr. President, I wanted to come to the floor to discuss a recent op-
ed in the New York Times just a few days ago. It kind of made a stir. A 
lot of people thought it was a really good op-ed. I didn't.
  I wanted to come to the floor and talk about this op-ed because it is 
making the rounds. It is by the columnist Thomas Freidman, and it is on 
national security, economic security, and trade issues relating to 
China.
  Now, I normally enjoy, respect--don't always agree with--the 
seriousness of Mr. Freidman's writings. He has written a lot of books, 
a lot of columns, especially on the Middle East, where he has a lot of 
insights, no doubt about it.
  But when I read this latest column called ``I Just Saw the Future. It 
Was Not in America,'' I couldn't believe how shockingly naive Mr. 
Freidman was in writing this. So I just wrote a response. I just 
started writing after reading this thing. My goodness, this is very 
naive. Then I submitted that to the New York Times. They said: Hey, 
sorry, it is too long.
  Maybe they didn't like it. Maybe they didn't think it was that good. 
I said: I can just read it on the Senate floor because I think this is 
a big debate, our relationship with China, how we view it, how he views 
it, how others view it, how President Trump views it, and it needs to 
be debated.
  That is what I want to do the next couple of minutes, talk about the 
Freidman piece and, in my view, why it is so naive and misses so many 
things and, particularly, gives Xi Jinping and the Chinese Communist 
Party a giant pass in terms of their history and what they have done to 
the international trading system.
  First, the Freidman article kind of condescendingly mocks, to be 
honest, a lot of us. He quotes some Senators, U.S. Senators, and says, 
you know, these Senators ``need to get out more'' when it comes to 
China. That is a quote in the article.
  Well, in my career, I have actually gotten out to China a lot, I mean 
in terms of working on the Chinese issues. I served on the National 
Supreme Court Council Staff under Condoleezza Rice and served as her 
Assistant Secretary of State in charge of economics, trade, energy, and 
finance. Again, under Secretary Rice, I was the Commissioner in charge 
of natural resources and energy in Alaska. I went to China then.
  In all these positions, I met with Chinese leaders, traveled to China 
a fair amount. And, of course, China national security issues really 
bookended my entire 30-year Marine Corps career. My first deployment in 
the Marines was to the Taiwan Strait during what is now referred to as 
the ``Third Taiwan Strait Crisis,'' in 1995 and 1996. My last billet in 
the Marine Corps was chief of staff to the Marine Forces Pacific 
Commander at Indo-Pacific PACOM. It was all about China and Taiwan. As 
a Senator, I continued to focus on these issues, traveling to Asia 
frequently.
  The lessons I learned when it comes to China are very different from 
those in the Thomas Freidman piece. As someone who has actually gotten 
out a fair amount to China, as Mr. Friedman tells us Senators we need 
to do, let's go into some of these lessons. For a smart guy, they sure 
were kind of naive to me.
  First, Thomas Freidman talks about the need for an agreement between 
the United States and China. But the big worry is that President Trump 
would not ``stick by'' any agreement with China. That is what he says.
  Now, he says this without even hinting at one of the Chinese 
Communist leadership's most consistent, salient, and frustrating 
traits, and this is it. They, the Chinese Communist leadership, almost 
never abides by their agreements with the United States--and I mean 
never. Big agreements, small agreements, it doesn't matter. They never 
abide by their agreements. I have seen this throughout my career.
  In 2003, I was actually in this meeting right there. That is 
President George W. Bush and the Vice Premier of China, Madame Wu Yi in 
the Oval Office. I was a young staffer right there next to the 
President. And President Bush pressed her, Madame Wu Yi, on this theft 
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``Madam Wu Yi, you have to stop stealing our IPR.'' That senior Chinese 
official, 2003, looked at the President of the United States and 
solemnly and sincerely said: Mr. President, we will stop this. You have 
my word.
  Well, we all know what happened. For decades, they lied about that. 
The last report USTR did on China's theft of intellectual property 
rights from the United States was $600 billion a year. Madam Wu Yi lied 
to President Bush in the Oval Office, no doubt about that.
  I was also part of Secretary Rice's senior leadership at the State 
Department, taking part in the twice-yearly Cabinet-level meetings 
launched by President Bush and China's President Hu Jintao, called the 
Strategic Economic Dialogue. SED, it was called. That is more Bush-
China. They never kept any of their SED commitments ever. I saw this.
  This is what I refer to as ``promise fatigue''--promise fatigue. The 
United States makes an agreement with China, and they never keep it--
never keep it. You know who has made an art form out of promise fatigue 
and not keeping their promise? This guy, Xi Jinping. You remember this 
in the Rose Garden with President Obama--in the Rose Garden 2015. 
President Xi Jinping looked at Barack Obama, looked at the American 
people and said: We are not going to do any more cyber theft, and we 
are not going to militarize the islands of the South China Sea. That is 
what Xi Jinping told President Obama.
  Guess what. That was a huge lie. They were already doing it.
  Remember these? President Trump and then President Biden--Xi Jinping 
made commitments to both President Trump and President Biden: We are 
going to stop the importation of fentanyl into Mexico and the United 
States. Xi Jinping said that to President Trump and to President Biden. 
Guess what. He never kept that agreement--ever.
  Of course, during the Trump administration--in the first term--the 
phase one China deal was signed with all this fanfare in the East Room 
of the White House--I was actually there when that happened--and they 
never kept any of those commitments.
  So no matter what, when it comes to China, they just don't keep their 
word. They don't keep their word. And yet Tom Friedman's article 
focuses on President Trump's reliability?
  As Joe Biden would say, ``Come on, man.''
  These are the guys who cheat and aren't reliable at all, and we all 
know it.
  Second, Friedman highlights what he sees as a great opportunity with 
China as it relates to our economic relations. Yet he never mentions 
the overriding goal of this guy, Xi Jinping. What is that overriding 
goal? He never mentions it once. That is to make sure the Chinese 
Communist Party stays in power and expands its power base at home and 
abroad through any means necessary, including coercion and violence. 
This is the goal that we all know drives his decision making.
  Like many in the Senate, I frequently attend classified briefings on 
China. We just had the INDOPACOM Commander testify today, Admiral 
Paparo, who, by the way, is doing a great job. Make no mistake--it is 
in all the Intel briefings--this guy, Xi Jinping, is preparing for war 
in the Taiwan Strait. Look at him there; he is in his fatigues. His 
aggressive efforts might extend beyond that.
  What am I talking about?
  The Chinese military just completed another massive military exercise 
to not only blockade Taiwan but to stop any reinforcements from coming 
into Taiwan. Then they conducted offensive military exercises off the 
shores of our allies the Philippines and Australia. Their navy went all 
the way around Australia just a couple of weeks ago.
  Friedman naively references Chinese Communist Party talking points: 
``healthy interdependencies'' and ``win-win.'' These guys always use 
that ``win-win'' and ``We will rise together.'' Yet he ignores the 
military menace of the CCP abroad and its genocidal tendencies at home.
  But, hey, that is OK.
  Mr. Friedman says: Hey, there are a lot of smart people in China who 
can help us with AI.
  Sorry. I am a little more worried about that.
  Then he notes:

       [Beijing] does not want a trade war.

  No, in fact, they are actually preparing for a real war, and that is 
a fact for anyone who knows about China.
  Finally, the entire thrust of Friedman's piece builds on and 
reinforces one of the biggest strategic blunders that the United States 
has made with regard to China and our China strategy, over the past 
four decades, and that is outsourcing much of our national security to 
corporate America.
  Friedman argues that we should concentrate on letting both of our 
private sectors, in China and the United States, work together, and if 
we do that, ``Americans, working in partnership with benevolent Chinese 
capital and technology, will prosper just like the Chinese benefited 
from American capital and technology in the last four decades.''
  And Tom Friedman has the nerve to call President Trump's thinking 
``magical.''
  Well, this is really magical from Tom Friedman. First off, the 
Chinese communist system doesn't really have a private sector. Again, 
anyone who gets out to China knows this. Everybody in China, 
ultimately, works for the CCP, for Xi Jinping, for the Chinese 
Communist Party.
  Just as importantly, as we have so painfully learned over the past 
four decades, the U.S. private sector, especially Wall Street and some 
of the big corporate CEOs, are very poor guardians of America's 
national security and economic interests when it comes to China. The 
U.S. Government finally, during President Trump's first term, started 
to say: Whoa. Wait. Stop. We can't outsource our national security to 
corporate America. We, the U.S. Government, need to safeguard our own 
interests, and that is what we are trying to do.
  I will say--and we just saw it a couple of years ago--the annual 
American CEO confab in Beijing with Xi Jinping, in the People's Hall, 
which, in my view, has become a national embarrassment, with Xi 
triumphantly leading the sycophantic-looking American CEOs behind him, 
does nothing to dispel the concern that this remains a strategic 
weakness in our national security relative to China.
  As we speak, CCP--the Chinese Communist Party--propaganda is flooding 
the world to fan the flames of a narrative that Friedman seems to 
embrace, and it is this: Their narrative is that President Trump has 
broken the World War II liberal international trading system.
  This charge is ridiculous, and it gives a pass to the real culprit. 
The Chinese Communist Party broke the system a long time ago, and that 
has been their intention all along.
  In 2005, then-Deputy Secretary of State and future World Bank 
president Bob Zoellick delivered his well-received speech, called the 
``Responsible Stakeholder'' speech. It noted that, more than any other 
country, China has benefited from the international economic order set 
up by the United States after World War II, and it was now time for 
China to safeguard and embrace and become a responsible stakeholder in 
this system to help it endure.
  I was in meetings with senior Chinese officials, not long after this 
speech, and they deceivingly used the term ``responsible stakeholder'' 
much to the American policymakers' delight. But the CCP leaders clearly 
had other plans: to unleash policies that continued their rampant 
intellectual property theft of American businesses; to never keep their 
promises and commitments that they make to Americans; forcing U.S. 
companies to hand over proprietary technology in order to gain access 
to China's market; aggressively subsidizing important industries, like 
steel, where they flooded global markets and destroyed the American 
heartland; blocking U.S. exports from having fair and reciprocal access 
to China's market; and unleashing economic coercion on our allies, like 
Australia, Korea, and Japan, when they dared to question CCP orthodoxy.
  The Trump administration's policies are a course correction to all of 
this. But make no mistake, it was the Chinese Communist Party and its 
policies that took a wrecking ball to the international trading system. 
Yet, like so many other aspects of Friedman's piece, he gives the CCP 
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  U.S. Senators on both sides of the aisle, including those who don't 
even get out much, according to Mr. Friedman, have recognized this 
truth. It would be good progress if an insightful observer of the 
international system, like Thomas Friedman is, would do so as well.
  I yield the floor.
  The PRESIDING OFFICER. The Senator from Connecticut.


                          Trump Administration

  Mr. MURPHY. Mr. President, I was sitting with the CEO of one of 
America's biggest and most influential companies last month, and I 
asked him a simple question: What could President Trump do that would 
be a bridge too far for you? What attack on democracy or the rule of 
law could Trump make that would cause you to speak up?
  His answer was pretty simple, and it was pretty confident. He said: 
If Trump were to ignore a Supreme Court ruling, that would cross the 
line.
  He was reflecting a familiar theme: that until President Trump thumbs 
his nose definitively at a Court ruling, then his attacks on democracy 
are troubling but not lethal. It is normal politics up until that 
dramatic confrontation between the executive branch and the judicial 
branch, for which the Constitution, as we know, really has no 
prescribed remedy.
  For many Americans, they may breathe a sigh of relief that America's 
most influential private sector leaders would rise up to defend 
democracy; that if this confrontation that we worry about would come to 
pass, combined with a massive public mobilization, we could be saved.
  But I didn't breathe a sigh of relief. It was the opposite.
  I am deeply worried that we have really spent little time studying 
the paths that democracies take when they collapse. Most of the time, 
there is not a singular moment when the Executive dramatically seizes 
power. There is not normally a brazen attempt to burn down the 
Parliament building. No, instead, democracies die when gradually, often 
quietly and methodically, over time, the structures that hold the 
Executive accountable for corruption, for thievery, for wrongdoing are 
dismantled--dismantled so that citizens can no longer hold the 
Executive accountable; dismantled so that the political opposition 
never has enough room to maneuver meaningfully.
  There are still elections. The Executive doesn't try to stuff the 
ballot box. Occasionally, at lower levels, the opposition still wins. 
But what happens is that those structures of accountability are either 
so degraded or so completely co-opted by the regime that the truth is 
just buried, and the political opposition loses the basic tools that it 
needs to win.
  In every democracy that stops being a democracy, then, there is a 
familiar story. There are four institutions that the regime attacks and 
that it attacks relentlessly until those structures of accountability 
are so disintegrated that, even though elections continue to happen, 
the same party or the same person wins power election after election. 
Those four institutions are the press, the legal profession, 
universities, and the business community. If you degrade or co-opt 
these four institutions, you never need to have a high-stakes fight 
with the top court in your country. You don't need to burn the 
Reichstag down. You can still have elections, but only one party will 
win.
  So that is why this CEO's assurance, frankly, sent a chill down my 
spine--because our democracy isn't at risk of dying; it is dying. As we 
speak, we are watching it die. It is not too late to save it.
  Let me say that again. It is not too late to save our democracy. But 
we can't continue to close our eyes and think that our democracy can 
survive a coordinated assault on those four key institutions of 
accountability. Democrats and Republicans need to see what is happening 
before our eyes, rise up, and defend the independence of journalists, 
of lawyers, of universities, and of the private sector.
  So I want to spend a minute or two to walk you through what President 
Trump is doing and how it, frankly, chillingly, mirrors the tactics 
that other leaders have used to transition real democracy into pretend, 
fake democracy.
  It always starts with journalists, from Hungary to Belarus, to 
Venezuela--countries that have elections but elections where one party 
just keeps on winning. These are places where journalists are subject 
to a nonstop harassment campaign from the regime, such that people just 
stop doing journalism or journalists stop telling the full truth.
  Last month, for instance, Turkish President Erdogan locked up 11 
journalists simply because they were covering protests against 
Erdogan's jailing of the top opposition leaders.
  Now, Trump has not started jailing journalists, but the pace of 
harassment in the first 60 days of his second term is alarming.
  He has denied access to government buildings, including the White 
House, to journalists who don't use preapproved language from the White 
House. He is preferencing credentials to partisan journalists who 
simply parrot his party line. His FCC has begun to deliberately harass 
media companies that are owned by political opponents of the President.
  But Trump's campaign to destroy independent journalism has a darker 
and more menacing side because Trump isn't just trying to intimidate 
journalists so that they will be afraid to tell the truth; he is also 
trying to destroy the concept of truth itself. Again, this is a key 
facet of leaders who are elected who are trying to transition 
democracies away and into something very different.
  How do you destroy truth? Well, that is why the Secretary of Defense 
looks into the camera and tells the American public that the text 
messages that everybody read, filled with classified information and 
war plans, did not include classified information and war plans.
  The White House wants you to believe that one plus one does not equal 
two any longer; that you should doubt even the clear things that you 
see with your eyes; that nothing is real; that nothing is true; that if 
you are a supporter of the regime and I tell you once plus one equals 
three, then one plus one equals three. Those weren't war plans. Those 
weren't classified items.
  That is also why the official position of the White House on key 
issues like tariffs changes every hour, because if the ground truth 
just changes constantly, then there is no truth at all.
  Journalists are made to look foolish by reporting a true thing at 9 
a.m. that becomes untrue at 10 a.m. Journalism loses its credibility 
when the facts being distributed by the White House change all the 
time.
  Trump says the tariffs are permanent.
  Journalists report that the President says the tariffs are permanent.
  An hour later, Trump says: I never said they are permanent. They are 
not permanent. I am cutting deals.
  They write that he is cutting deals.
  An hour later, they are suspended--no more tariffs.
  When the truth changes constantly, it is hard to believe that there 
is anything true any longer.
  Second, universities are always--always--a target of would-be 
autocrats. Again, in Turkiye, the government has terminated thousands 
of professors just because they criticized the government. In Hungary, 
one of the nation's most prestigious universities was forced to move 
out of the country because President Orban attacked it so ceaselessly 
for fomenting protests against his government.
  Universities, over the long history of democracy, have been the place 
where protests--especially youth protests--begin. They are a thorn in 
the side of leadership. The famous Tiananmen Square protests in China 
were, of course, started by university students.
  So it is no surprise that if you want to crush democracy, you need to 
crush the independence of universities. That is why Trump's decision to 
target universities that permit criticism of President Trump is so 
bone-chilling. He pretends like he is standing up to anti-Semitism on 
campuses, but what he is really trying to do is make clear that 
protests against his policies on campuses will result in Federal 
funding being cut off.
  Columbia University was forced to agree to a stunning list of free 
speech concessions in order to gain assurances from President Trump 
that their Federal funding would continue. They had to agree to allow 
campus police to arrest protesters. They had to essentially agree to 
receivership, Federal receivership, over an academic department

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that houses professors who are critical of Trump and his policies. 
Effectively, the President of the United States got to pick the person 
who will oversee the Columbia Department of Middle East, South Asian 
and African Studies as well as the Center for Palestine Studies. That 
is extraordinary. That is not what happens in a healthy democracy--the 
leader of the country micromanaging academic departments at major 
universities to ensure that academic work aligns with the regime.
  Now, having successfully forced Columbia to bend the knee and quell 
dissent on their campus, Trump is targeting other universities. Some of 
them will sign similar agreements giving President Trump power over 
those campuses. But, frankly, all Trump has to do is make an example of 
a handful of universities, and others will simply comply and obey in 
advance.
  Why? As an academic president, when you have Federal dollars that 
employ people at your university, would you permit a major protest 
against a Trump policy if you know that is going to jeopardize Federal 
funds? Maybe you allow it because you don't want to brazenly stand in 
the way of free speech, but you just make sure that it is not too big a 
protest or it is not too critical. You police speech to be on the right 
side of the regime. That is what happens in all of these fake 
democracies, and that is what is happening here.
  But controlling speech on campuses is not enough. Controlling and 
intimidating journalists is not enough. You have to go after the 
lawyers too.
  Now, maybe there is not a lot of love for lawyers in this country, 
but lawyers are the ones who bring the lawsuits to stop the thievery 
and the illegality. Lawyers are compelled by their oath to stand up for 
the Constitution.
  Putin arrested Navalny's lawyers right on the eve of Navalny's trial.
  In Venezuela, Maduro routinely harasses and detains lawyers--human 
rights lawyers--because he knows those are the ones who will hold him 
accountable.
  In Tunisia, the regime stormed the offices of the bar administration 
to intimidate the legal profession into silence.
  Here in America, Trump is engaged in a shameless campaign of 
extortion against any major law firm that has taken a position against 
Trump or Trump's interests. What he is doing is extraordinary, and it 
is mind-blowing to me that it is just being ignored by my Republican 
colleagues. He is going firm by firm--and not to every firm, just to 
the firms that have represented Democrats or brought cases against 
him--and he is telling them that if they don't fall in line and stop 
doing work to oppose him, their clients will lose access to Federal 
work.
  That is extortion. This body, Republicans and Democrats, should stand 
up against it. But it is working. Several law firms have signed deals 
with Trump that obligate them to support--guess what--causes aligned 
with Donald Trump.
  Paul Weiss was targeted by an Executive order and struck a deal. But 
so did Skadden. They struck a deal with Trump before they had even been 
targeted. Already, collectively, these firms have pledged--think about 
this--about a quarter of a billion dollars of pro bono work to file 
cases in coordination with the President of the United States' 
political interests.

  Just like what happened with the universities, there is a lot of 
extra compliance that is happening. I know for a fact that firms that 
have already signed these agreements with Trump have gone above and 
beyond the terms of the agreements to quiet their criticism of the 
government. No doubt, every single major law firm will think twice 
before bringing an action against an illegal or corrupt action of the 
President in fear of Trump retaliating against their business.
  That is the point. The point is to try to crush dissent. The point is 
to try to stand in the way of anybody who is going to hold Trump 
accountable by using the power--the official power granted to him by 
the people of the United States--to try to signal retaliation against 
anyone who dares oppose him.
  But collective action can be a powerful tool. Together, the 
collective might of our universities and our law firms is significant. 
So they could choose to band together and decide to sign no agreements 
with Trump, to refuse to let the President of the United States dictate 
the terms of their speech, their business, their defense of the rule of 
law.
  I don't want to make the victim the perpetrator. This is all Trump's 
fault, what he is doing to extort political loyalty from universities 
and law firms. But instead of there being collective action on behalf 
of these industries, the opposite is happening.
  In the legal profession, when Paul Weiss was being targeted, the 
other big firms didn't rise to their defense; they started making calls 
to Paul Weiss clients and lawyers, using Trump's assault as a means to 
poach business or partners. That is shameful, acting like ravenous 
vultures, putting your profits first instead of your country's 
interests or the interests of the legal profession, which pledges 
before a court to stand up for the rule of law. Instead, these big 
firms are aiding and abetting the destruction of the rule of law by 
doing Trump's work for him, making targeted firms even more vulnerable 
by working behind the scenes to strip them bare for parts.
  There are good, patriotic lawyers at many of these high-priced firms 
who know that this is wrong and they should speak up. Some of them 
already have.
  Now, finally, Trump is coming for the rest of the private sector. 
Listen, I have no idea what the Trump tariff policy is. The constantly 
shifting positions of the last week are an embarrassment. It is 
complete incompetent malpractice. It has jeopardized jobs and 
retirement savings and college funds all across this country.
  But the tariffs are complicated and convoluted and hard to 
understand, likely because they aren't actually economic or trade 
policy; they are a political tool--this one designed to force every 
major company to come before Trump to plead for tariff relief in 
exchange for giving Trump the company's political loyalty--no different 
than what is happening in the legal profession or in America's 
universities.
  A tariff can be written very easily to favor one industry over 
another or one company over another, and the confusing nature of the 
tariff regime is a means for Trump to require every major company in 
the country to come on bended knee to him to get the relief they need. 
And that loyalty pledge could be anything--the purchase of some Trump 
crypto coin, public support for Trump's economic policies, donations to 
his political campaign. But having watched what Trump has done one by 
one to universities and law firms, why would we assume the tariffs 
aren't just simply a tool to do the same thing to big companies?
  What I am trying to say here is that you don't need a battle royal 
between the President and the Supreme Court for democracy to die. If 
journalists are constantly looking over their shoulders and unable to 
report on the truth; if protest is suppressed, even moderately, at 
universities; if lawyers start giving cover instead of uncovering 
corruption and illegality in the regime; if companies start being 
mouthpieces for the regime as a price of doing business--if all that 
happens, then we are not a real democracy anymore; we are a fake 
democracy. Elections still happen, like in Turkiye, like in Hungary, 
like in Venezuela, but the rules are going to be tilted, and dissent 
will be suppressed so much that the same side--Trump's side--wins over 
and over and over.
  This should matter not just to Democrats, not just to members of the 
minority party; this should matter to Republicans as well. We swear an 
oath to uphold the Constitution, and it is time for us to see the game 
that is being played.
  The good news is that the rules have not been fully rigged yet. There 
is still time--not loads of it, but there is still time for this body 
to set a tone that causes the kind of massive public outrage necessary 
to stop this campaign of destruction in its tracks. But that requires 
those of us who believe that the threat to democracy is urgent to act 
like it. That means saying to our Republican colleagues that we are not 
going to act like business as usual, that we are not going to proceed 
to legislation unless we have agreement, Republicans and Democrats, to 
stop this assault on free speech and dissent. It requires the minority 
party to say that right now.

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  Only if we come together are we going to have a chance to save 
ourselves from the fate that has befallen so many other countries that 
have slowly, too quietly, seen their countries transition from real 
democracy to fake democracy.
  I yield the floor.
  I suggest the absence of a quorum.
  The PRESIDING OFFICER. The clerk will call the roll.
  The senior assistant legislative clerk proceeded to call the roll.
  Mr. THUNE. Mr. President, I ask unanimous consent that the order for 
the quorum call be rescinded.
  The PRESIDING OFFICER (Mr. Husted). Without objection, it is so 
ordered.
  The majority leader.


                           Order of Procedure

  Mr. THUNE. Mr. President, I ask unanimous consent that 
notwithstanding rule XXII, with respect to the cloture motions on 
Executive Calendar Nos. 74 and 75, the mandatory quorum calls be waived 
and they ripen at 1 a.m., Friday, April 11; further if cloture is 
invoked on Calendar No. 74, all post-cloture time be expired and the 
Senate vote on confirmation of the nomination; further, if cloture is 
invoked on Calendar No. 75, all postcloture time be expired and the 
Senate vote on confirmation of the nomination; finally, if confirmed, 
the motions to reconsider be considered made and laid upon the table.
  The PRESIDING OFFICER. Without objection, it is so ordered.
  The PRESIDING OFFICER. The Senator from Louisiana.


       Building Resilient Infrastructure and Communities Program

  Mr. CASSIDY. Mr. President, what you see depends on where you sit. 
Last Friday, it was announced that the BRIC Program, or the Building 
Resilient Infrastructure and Communities Program, run by FEMA would 
end, and money which had been allocated would be pulled back from the 
States which were receiving it.
  Now, most families across the country have not heard of the BRIC 
Program, but if you were to explain what it does, they would say, 
oftentimes, that they need it. I can tell you folks in Louisiana do.
  Louisiana has benefited the most per capita in the BRIC's latest 
round of funding, and I would argue that this actually saves tax 
dollars for the rest of the country because the BRIC Program helps 
prevent against flooding, flooding that may occur after a big rain 
event or after a hurricane. And in Louisiana and in many parts of our 
country, this is an inevitable part of life.
  But the best way to recover from a flood is to never flood at all. 
The old saying:

       An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure.

  Another:

       A stitch in time saves nine.

  The same principle applies to flood resilience and mitigation 
infrastructure. When we invest in levies and floodwalls, communities 
are protected when the storm hits, and the Federal Government saves 
billions in a recovery effort that never has to be done.
  If you go down to South Louisiana, for example, you will see homes 
elevated by the BRIC Program that were not previously elevated. Now 
that they are elevated, that family is secure should the floodwaters 
come.
  Now, you can say: Wait a second. That is just Louisiana. There is a 
parish in Louisiana in which the flood control structures prevented 
10,000 homes from being flooded in the last hurricane--talk about an 
ounce of prevention because those programs, those families, they would 
have received Federal help. Turns out no Federal help was needed 
because we were able to build resilience. We were able to keep those 
homes from flooding in the first place. This is the type of work that 
we need to do. And if we do it, then never is a National Flood 
Insurance Program claim filed.
  The family saves; the taxpayer saves. Investing now saves money down 
the line.
  That is why back in 2018, during President Trump's first term, 
Congress established the BRIC Program to invest in those flood 
protections needed to prevent future flooding. And through the 
Infrastructure Investment and Jobs Act, another billion dollars was 
added to that program. This is because the BRIC Program is an effective 
tool, the type of tool that my communities in my State and communities 
elsewhere in the country depend upon.
  Now, apparently, though, the BRIC Program is in danger. And it is 
being endangered, I gather, because of the effort to eliminate 
government waste. Now, there is a lot of government waste, and I am all 
for eliminating that waste. If there is fraud, we should eliminate it. 
If there is waste, we should eliminate it.
  But preventing homes from flooding, that if they do flood will cost 
the Federal taxpayer billions of dollars, that is not waste; that is 
good planning. That is what we should all be doing in every aspect of 
our life: planning ahead, planning proactively. The waste is that, if 
we don't do this program and the inevitable flood occurs, then we have 
to go in and rescue communities. That is waste because we could have 
prevented that from happening in the first place by implementing 
programs such as the BRIC Program.
  I would ask FEMA to reconsider the impact of cuts to the BRIC Program 
and to reconsider canceling the BRIC applications that are already 
placed.
  They should. This is a congressionally authorized piece of 
legislation--authorized and congressionally appropriated. Congress has 
said that this program will exist. We passed BRIC into law. We provided 
funds for it. To do anything other than to use that money to protect 
families from flooding, to protect the Federal taxpayer from having to 
put out billions to rescue communities which have flooded, is to thwart 
the will of Congress. And that is why Congress passed it in the first 
Trump term, and that is why President Trump supported it. It improves 
efficiency, not decreases it.
  I can tell you, people in South Louisiana--whether it is Terrebonne, 
Lafourche, Ascension Parishes, and places you wouldn't expect to flood 
like Livingston Parish--that overwhelmingly--that supported President 
Trump 95 percent of the time, they would overwhelmingly support this 
sort of flood mitigation.
  Here are some examples of the money that is already going out: 
Roughly, $40 million to the city of Central; $36 million to Ascension 
Parish. In Central, they were trying to reduce flooding after the great 
floods of 2016 in Louisiana, trying to keep that from happening again.
  The $36 million to Ascension Parish is to fortify electrical 
infrastructure. Hurricane comes along; electricity goes out. Of course, 
no electricity, the whole community is incapacitated.
  Twenty million dollars to Lafourche Parish to strengthen 16 miles of 
power lines; $10 million to the Coushatta Tribe of Louisiana to provide 
evacuation routes during flooding. Evacuation routes during flooding, 
that is something that we should make sure we are building so that you 
don't have to helicopter people out or you don't have to get them out 
by boat.
  So these are examples of BRIC Programs that are a stitch in time that 
will save nine.
  Now, of course, it is important to my State. I will point out that 
Louisiana was the third largest recipient of BRIC Program funding 
recently and the largest on a per capita base. And without BRIC 
funding, none of these projects would happen--whether it is East Baton 
Rouge Parish, Ascension Parish, Lafourche, or the Coushatta Tribe.
  Lafourche Parish President Archie Chaisson had a $25 million 
application for grid-hardening so that the people of Lafourche would be 
able to get back on their feet quicker after a hurricane. I can tell 
you, I went down to Lafourche Parish after the last hurricane, and all 
the power poles had just toppled over. It is almost as if you were 
playing dominoes. They weren't touching, but they all toppled just like 
that. And there were crews from around the country that had been--
electrical crews that had been mobilized to come and reinstall those.
  If you hardened the grid, that doesn't happen. If you harden the 
grid, those tens of millions, hundreds of millions of dollars spent to 
get those electricity poles back up does not have to be spent. This 
money is an investment in a more resilient future that doesn't require 
the investment of private and public capital to restart communities. 
This is not waste.

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  In fact, if you went to Archie Chaisson's parish, I can tell you, 
those folks would tell you they are against government waste. They 
would also tell you that this is not waste. This is something which 
will save their homes, save lives, and save communities.
  Now, we can ask ourselves if FEMA were to move forward with the plan 
to cut BRIC, what would be the alternative? Flooding costs up to almost 
$500 billion in damage every year throughout the United States, not 
just Louisiana. Again, $500 billion in damage that we have to pay after 
the fact versus investing a few million now to prevent.
  Now, the darker the color, the more the recent flooding. So you can 
say, although I have been speaking about Louisiana, you can see that, 
across our Nation, floods have been destroying homes and neighborhoods; 
downing power lines; harming businesses; in some cases, taking lives.
  Just since the start of 2025, at least eight Americans in these four 
States in dark red have died as a result of storms hitting their 
communities. In the last 3 months, 37 States have experienced flooding.
  These are the States that are in red. It goes all the way from Maine 
to Minnesota, to Michigan, to Montana--you don't think of Montana being 
a flood State--Idaho. All of these States in red have had flooding in 
the last 3 months.
  And you see, it is not just the coastline in which there is a coastal 
surge like Louisiana or Florida. It is also what is called riverine. 
``Riverine'' meaning you have a valley, a river down the middle, the 
river rises, and people on the lower part of that valley--I think that 
would be the situation in Kentucky--are going to flood.
  These are all places that could benefit from a resiliency program, 
from a BRIC Program. We know it works. We know it saves money.
  And just to bring this home to my State, this is Livingston Parish, 
LA, just after the great flood of 2016. Look at that. These are homes 
in areas that had never flooded before. And in some incredible, once-
in-500-years flood event, they were all flooded. Livingston Parish, 
2016--we call it the Great Flood. It affected not just this parish but 
all those in what we call the capital region--Tangipahoa Parish, going 
up to Monroe, LA--it was almost a statewide event.
  Now, if we built resiliency, this doesn't happen. If you look at 
this, can you image the Federal response?
  They were so honored then-Presidential candidate Donald Trump came 
down and spent time in Livingston Parish after this flood to call 
attention to it because he felt as if President Obama was not paying 
attention. President Trump came with Vice President nominee Pence, 
spent time there, brought hope to the people, and that is when, in 
2018--I am sure part of his motivation was to sign into law what has 
ultimately become the BRIC Program.
  These people testify with their flooding how lives are changed when 
you don't have resiliency.
  I just want to say one more thing because I would talk to these 
people. I am privileged to represent them. Each of these homes has a 
story. There was a wedding dress that a mother had, saving for her 
daughter, that was ruined in a flood. There were wedding pictures from 
a grandparent, parents, and daughters--multigeneration--and an album to 
save for generations totally lost in a flood. There were, in this 
flood, neighbors who went out and died, not recognizing the place they 
were stepping wasn't the side of a road but rather a ditch, and they 
went down, got swept away in this flood. I can go through each house 
and imagine a story that could have been prevented if there had been 
resiliency built into this community before this flood.
  The purpose of the BRIC grants is to build that resiliency so that we 
don't have stories to tell which are tragic or sad but rather stories 
where people continue on with their life as if--well, as if the flood 
never occurred.
  Local leaders advocating implementing using these dollars are 
advocating for the people they represent. So am I. Right now, 
representing those people calls for me to ask that any effort to stop 
BRIC grant funding is halted, that the will of Congress, that the law 
that Congress passed, that the funding Congress put into the program, 
that be honored--by law, it should be honored--and that the money which 
is out there stays there and the applications which have been placed be 
accepted, processed, and fulfilled.
  If rules need to be changed because the Biden administration did 
things which are silly to have done, then change those rules. But to 
end a program--to end a program--which has the ability to prevent this 
sort of disaster, not just in my State but across the Nation, we should 
not end that program. To do so is to inflict harm both upon the rule of 
law and upon these communities.
  Let's keep BRIC in place.
  I yield the floor.
  I suggest the absence of a quorum.
  The PRESIDING OFFICER. The clerk will call the roll.
  The legislative clerk proceeded to call the roll.
  Mr. LANKFORD. Mr. President, I ask unanimous consent that the order 
for the quorum call be rescinded.
  The PRESIDING OFFICER. Without objection, it is so ordered.

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